Atheism and Agnostic

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02-14-12 07:22 PM

	aNsWeRkEy02 Jr. Member II		Posts: 237 Thank You: 7 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : pain11 on 02-14-12 04:15 PM

yap ganyan nga sila

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Originally Posted by : kaisercj on 02-14-12 12:47 PM

is atheism is denying the existence of god?

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A study by the Freedom From Religion Foundation found that over 90% of the atheists who responded became atheists because religion did not work for them. They had found that religious beliefs were fundamentally incompatible with what they observed around them.

Atheists are not unbelievers through ignorance or denial; they are unbelievers through choice. The vast majority of them have spent time studying one or more religions, sometimes in very great depth. They have made a careful and considered decision to reject religious beliefs.

This decision may, of course, be an inevitable consequence of that individual's personality. For a naturally skeptical person, the choice of atheism is often the only one that makes sense, and hence the only choice that person can honestly make.

The word "deny" can be used to mean "fail to accept the truth of." In that sense only, atheists deny the existence of God. They are not "in denial," willfully ignoring evidence; nor do they necessarily positively assert the nonexistence of God.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/intro.html

refer to the above site for further info..

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." --Stephen F Roberts

Reply #541

02-14-12 07:59 PM

	kaisercj Full Member		Posts: 2504 Thank You: 985 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : pain11 on 02-14-12 04:15 PM

yap ganyan nga sila

So if they deny the existence God. God is existing, they just deny it?

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Reply #542

02-14-12 08:04 PM

	aNsWeRkEy02 Jr. Member II		Posts: 237 Thank You: 7 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : kaisercj on 02-14-12 07:59 PM

So if they deny the existence God. God is existing, they just deny it?

huh?

so kun ang christians dinedeny ang existence ni allah at ni vishnu..it means existing na agad sila?

Disbelief is not the same as denial, it's either the absence of belief or the presence of skepticism.

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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." --Stephen F Roberts

Reply #543

02-14-12 08:30 PM

	sehren Sr. Member		Posts: 8396 Thank You: 516 Reputation: 18

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

So bago kayo naging atheists, anu anong religions na ang napuntahan niyo?

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Reply #544

02-14-12 09:19 PM

	kaisercj Full Member		Posts: 2504 Thank You: 985 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : aNsWeRkEy02 on 02-14-12 08:04 PM

huh?

so kun ang christians dinedeny ang existence ni allah at ni vishnu..it means existing na agad sila?

Disbelief is not the same as denial, it's either the absence of belief or the presence of skepticism.

All atheists,once in their life believed the existence of a god, may be God, Allah, or any god. At some point in their life the felt that God (or other gods) betrayed them.. And so god is there, they dont just believe in them

Atheism is also a belief, you know?

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Reply #545

02-14-12 10:16 PM

	aNsWeRkEy02 Jr. Member II		Posts: 237 Thank You: 7 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : kaisercj on 02-14-12 09:19 PM

All atheists,once in their life believed the existence of a god, may be God, Allah, or any god. At some point in their life the felt that God (or other gods) betrayed them.. And so god is there, they dont just believe in them

Atheism is also a belief, you know?

first of all..most of us became believers not by choice..remember baptism and childhood indoctrination..simple lang yan..kung sa muslim country ka pinanganak..muslim usually kalalabasan mo..kung catholic/christian..malamng ganun din..just because everyone believes in it..automatically totoo na..di ganun yun..remember that..

regarding the highlighted one..di po lahat ganyan...siguro yung iba..pero not all atheist..dont generalize..

gaya ng sinabi ko..read the posted link na binigay ko..baka yung iba mong tanong andun yung sagot..

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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." --Stephen F Roberts

Reply #546

02-14-12 10:56 PM

	kaisercj Full Member		Posts: 2504 Thank You: 985 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

Ok, i apologize for generalizing, I also would like to stress that di rin ako sang ayon sa porket lahat naniniwala totoo na.. its my choice to believe at christians are not only catholics. And i think catholic church ang sanhi kung bakit dumadami ang unbelievers.

God and religion, totoo man o hindi may magandang papel talaga ito sa humanity e. Parang it fills the insecurities of man and ultimately the fear of death through eternal life and heaven. Kung ako tatanungin, importante ang religion. Naniniwala ako,why? Dahil takot ako magisa.

I still believe na atheism is also a belief.

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Reply #547

02-15-12 03:00 AM

	gothminister Full Member		Posts: 1677 Thank You: 78 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

basta ako
hindi ako naniniwala sa heaven & hell
dahil wala pa namang nagpapatunay na totoo yun

Reply #548

02-15-12 11:36 AM

	thrown Full Member		Posts: 494 Thank You: 12 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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God and religion, totoo man o hindi may magandang papel talaga ito sa humanity e. Parang it fills the insecurities of man and ultimately the fear of death through eternal life and heaven. Kung ako tatanungin, importante ang religion. Naniniwala ako,why? Dahil takot ako magisa.

you hit the bullseye!

Reply #549

02-15-12 12:19 PM

	cute_huckfin Sr. Member		Posts: 5662 Thank You: 633 Reputation: 18

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : gothminister on 02-15-12 03:00 AM

basta ako
hindi ako naniniwala sa heaven & hell
dahil wala pa namang nagpapatunay na totoo yun

wala pa kasing nakakapunta eh..

hayaan mo inform kita pag nakaunta na ako

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Reply #550

02-15-12 12:27 PM

	kaisercj Full Member		Posts: 2504 Thank You: 985 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

wala namang masama sa paghope ng heaven, kung wala eh di wala, patay ka na naman e, kung meron eh di good!

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Reply #551

02-15-12 01:51 PM

	maxgreen099 Full Member		Posts: 1667 Thank You: 33 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : cute_huckfin on 02-15-12 12:19 PM

wala pa kasing nakakapunta eh..

hayaan mo inform kita pag nakaunta na ako

it seems like your pretty much sure that you would go to heaven someday
maybe you should say i will just inform you if i got to hell

I woke up and i'd realized that life wasn't cool as it was.

Reply #552

02-18-12 04:55 AM

	pain11 Full Member		Posts: 897 Thank You: 14 Reputation: 1

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : maxgreen099 on 02-15-12 01:51 PM

it seems like your pretty much sure that you would go to heaven someday
maybe you should say i will just inform you if i got to hell

haha , ikaw ba yun sa topic about Aliens? Atheist ka noh?

Reply #553

02-18-12 01:38 PM

	cute_huckfin Sr. Member		Posts: 5662 Thank You: 633 Reputation: 18

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : maxgreen099 on 02-15-12 01:51 PM

it seems like your pretty much sure that you would go to heaven someday
maybe you should say i will just inform you if i got to hell

Ikaw na lang mag inform sa akin, pag naka punta ka na sa hell

Di ka rin nakatiis

Jesus is the Begotten Son, He is God, He is not the Father

Reply #554

02-20-12 05:10 AM

	bulldozer Full Member		Posts: 326 Thank You: 16 Reputation: 0

Re: Atheism and Agnostic

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Originally Posted by : kaisercj on 02-14-12 10:56 PM

... And i think catholic church ang sanhi kung bakit dumadami ang unbelievers...

i disagree, it because of the protestants.

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